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DM: RE:From: Sarabjot S. Anand Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 09:19:33 -0400 (EDT) I would tend to support Hypothesis A. It also does depend on your validation technique. However, I am a bit concerned anout the non-churn customers that you used to build the model. The concern is similar to that discussed in our paper "A methodology for Cross Sales using Data Mining" available from http://inchinn.infj.ulst.ac.uk/htdocs/reports.html. How did you define non-chrun? If they were current customers - then tou have a problem as some of these are potentially churn customers that haven't executed their move as yet. How do you get around this? The model you have built differentiates between those who have left and those who have not and is subtly different from what you are trying to do - your current customers are your target set not the non-churn set. Sarab -----Original Message----- From: Hallberg Rassy [SMTP:hr38@hotmail.com] Sent: 09 April 1998 11:23 To: datamine-l@nautilus-sys.com Subject: Dear Friend I have now a problem and would like to share with you and to receive, if possible your opinion. Hereinafter the picture of situation: 1.I'm presently involved in a customer profiling project for a large mobile operator. 2.The goal is to set up a system able to anticipate the likelyhood of churn of customers 3.As a pilot step I extracted call records for 10000 active customers plus 4000 churned 4.Using SPSS neural connection I made up a neural network based on a set of 4000 active+4000 churned 5.The data was: calling patterns of july, agoust and september the target was: churn/no churn situation in december 6.The results was promising: 90% of real churn anticipated, with a cut-off probability of 80% 7.The same network was used on october, nov, dec. data to anticipate march churn the results dropped to a terrific 11% with the same cut-off of 80%: totally useless I have formulated some hypotheses A.The low time span (three month) is affected by seasonality B.The data used are not sufficient to build a reliable network C.The tool (SPSS Neural Connection) is not reliable Could you give your opinion? Many thanks in advance ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
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