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Re: DM: Datamining tools ... black boxes...From: Ronny Kohavi Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 01:38:58 -0800
Warren Sarle wrote: > > "Some Data Mining tools are presented like black boxes" simply because > > they ARE black boxes. It is not possible to make much sense of say, a > > trained > > Neural Network or the Memory Based Reasoning algorithm results. You have > > to believe the underlying math in order to trust their predictions. > > That is not what "black box" means. "Black box" means you know what > is supposed to go into it and you know what is supposed to come out > of it, but you you don't know how the computation is done inside the > "box". It has nothing to do with interpretability of results. With > respect to commercial software, "black box" means that the algorithms > used inside the software are undocumented. > I beg to differ here, Warren; I agree with Sergei. A black box means that you know the characteristics of the construct/box, but it's "black" because the internals are unspecified or not understood by the person looking at the box. For example, a black box that makes product recommendations at a web site can have clear input/outputs: input=shopping basket and prior purchases, output=top 3 products to recommend You can study its input/outputs to try and glean insight, but that's going to be very hard unless you can open that box and find something you can understand. If the recommendation engine uses a neural network or memory-based/nearest-neighbor approaches, good luck explaining its behavior to a business user (it will remain a black box). If, however, the box makes recommendations based on decision rules or trees, a business user might understand what's inside, turning it from black-box to white-box. -- Ronny
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